Skirt Strategies: 249 Success Tips for Women in Leadership<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\nKatie: In general we\u2019re here for professional training and coaching for women.<\/p>\n
Carol: We absolutely are.<\/p>\n
Katie: Because we all need it. And I think women work well when they are supported by other women, which is what you and I are here to do. It\u2019s our mission in life. I love that.<\/p>\n
Carol: It\u2019s like better than a bra.<\/p>\n
Katie: A mission in life is like a bra?<\/p>\n
Carol: No we\u2019re better than a bra. We support women.<\/p>\n
Katie: Oh gotcha. That\u2019s true. Bras are expensive. Let\u2019s start talking about that. Let\u2019s get off track right off the bat.<\/p>\n
Carol: Let\u2019s do.<\/p>\n
Katie: We\u2019re fun that way.<\/p>\n
We\u2019re dealing with a few different tips in the book Skirt Strategies: 249 Success Tips for Women in Leadership<\/em>, and each of our podcast, at least right now, we don\u2019t have every podcast focusing on the book, but recently they\u2019ve been focused on an episode.<\/p>\nCarol: One tip right after the other because they are all good.<\/p>\n
Katie: We\u2019re the tip generators. The tips that we\u2019re on right now are tips Number 30, 31, and 32. So Tip Number 30 is what Carol?<\/p>\n
Carol: Keep leadership and team building books on your shelf including inspiring books on CD. Use the good ones as a reference when you need ideas<\/em>.<\/p>\nKatie: When you are at a loss for what to do with something you go to a friend or sometimes you go to your bookshelf.<\/p>\n
Carol: And then sometimes you have friends go to your bookshelf. I was talking to a friend recently and he said, \u201cDo you know that every good book I\u2019ve read, business book, in the last year has come from you. I\u2019m sitting here looking at two of them on my desk right now that I need to give back to you.\u201d<\/p>\n
Katie: I thought you were going to say that you wrote them.<\/p>\n
Carol: Well, one of them. Yes but really you know between my husband and I we buy a lot of books and we support authors is what we do and we just love reading them and getting through them on CDs, excuse me, on audio books as well as the written word.<\/p>\n
And interestingly a lot of times we will buy an audio book and get through it and realize that you really want to underline something you want that in your hands. So then we buy the book and then we\u2019ve just supported the author.<\/p>\n
Katie: That\u2019s good. I do that a lot. I don\u2019t listen to as many business books on tape, on audio. I\u2019ll be one of the two of us that relates to the women in the audience that don\u2019t do a lot of reading or if they do, it\u2019s the nonfiction, or it\u2019s the fiction vs. the non-fiction stuff. I look for the executive summary.<\/p>\n
Carol: Or you ask me?<\/p>\n
Katie: Or I ask you. This actually, if you call it a problem, not asking you but not being able to read business books was the colonel of start for Skirt Strategies: 249 Success Tips for Women in Leadership<\/em> because I was frustrated with these big hefty tomes like what was the one I just saw on your bookshelf?<\/p>\nCarol: The Success Principles<\/em> and it\u2019s probably about three inches thick.<\/p>\nKatie: I thought don\u2019t make me do it. Why do you have to be \u2013 why does it have to look like you\u2019re in a master\u2019s degree program in order to continue to be a great leader?<\/p>\n
Carol: And a great learner? So we are continuous learners.<\/p>\n
Katie: We are continuous learners. So it sounds like I\u2019m contradicting our tip doesn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n
Carol: No it doesn\u2019t at all. And I get what you\u2019re saying. Really at this point in my life, I\u2019m not going to go through a huge tome of information. If the author couldn\u2019t have boiled that information down any better that they probably were too wordy anyway.<\/p>\n
Katie: And sometimes you can get a good amount of the content out of the first hundred pages and then it is just reinforcement but keeping leadership and team building books on your shelf \u2013 one of the reasons we have this as a tip is to remind people that lifelong learning is built into natural leadership.<\/p>\n
If you\u2019re out there, if you are listening to us, you\u2019re probably the kind of person that is constantly growing. You are evolving. It\u2019s a relentless pursuit for you.<\/p>\n
Carol: I wouldn\u2019t say relentless but it is a pursuit, right? The lifelong learning and keeping fresh and keeping on top of things \u2013 I love learning new things and I forget it almost as fast as I learn it but I really do love reading and keeping up.<\/p>\n
Some of the books I have on my shelf that I really love: of course we talk a lot about The Charisma Myth<\/em> and that was a fun book to read and I thought for what we do professional development for women, I thought that was so important to let women know that you can build your charisma.<\/p>\nKatie: The Charisma Myth<\/em> by Olivia Fox Cabane.<\/p>\nCarol: <\/em>A couple that I just love are: Switch <\/em>and Made to Stick <\/em>by Chip and Dan Heath. They are absolutely brilliant as far as getting your message across to people whether you are writing, whether you are talking, public speaking, whatever, how to get your message across. They do it beautifully.<\/p>\nKatie: I remember when I read Made to Stick<\/em>. It gave me so many ideas so fast I was scribbling in the margins. It\u2019s kind of a motivational book that way.<\/p>\nCarol: Especially for you because you are a public speaker and it gives you lots of ideas about how to make your stories stick in people\u2019s minds.<\/p>\n
Katie: So true.<\/p>\n
Carol: And then for those of you who are entrepreneurs: The E Myth<\/em>. It\u2019s a classic. It\u2019s been a long time but I still go back to that for my friends who are entrepreneurs. Are you building the systems you need in order to walk away from your business so that you don\u2019t have to be there all the time. I think that\u2019s very important. I think that\u2019s the top line message from The E Myth<\/em>, is building the system so you don\u2019t have to be there all the time.<\/p>\nI work in the restaurant industry and I see this happening a lot where people basically are running on the treadmill all the time and never build systems so it\u2019s a big one for me.<\/p>\n
What about you?<\/p>\n
Katie: I\u2019ve been using Susan Scott\u2019s Fierce Conversations<\/em> a lot in workshops. She\u2019s got a way with words where she talks about interrogating reality, being fierce, coming out from behind your words, things like that that resonate with me because so many people come to us to help with communications. So her book is Fierce Conversations, Achieving Success at Work and in Life One Conversation at a Time<\/em>. Love, love her.<\/p>\nIn fact I just brought it up in a leadership one-day retreat that I worked with a client. It was front and center of how we went through making sure we held each other accountable to say what we mean and mean what we say.<\/p>\n
And then Martin Seligman is the guy who wrote Learned Optimism<\/em>. And another one of his books that I\u2019m looking at right now is Authentic Happiness<\/em> which came after where it\u2019s using the new positive psychology to realize your potential for last fulfillment. It sounds a little woo woo but \u2013<\/p>\nCarol: Oh it\u2019s fabulous.<\/p>\n
Katie: It\u2019s not woo woo, it\u2019s researched stuff.<\/p>\n
Carol: All the work that\u2019s being done right now on happiness and gratitude, The Happiness Advantage<\/em> by Shawn Achor \u2013 just fabulous books that keep you very positive. Because you learn that it pays to be positive and so you just read these book and it\u2019s like, \u201cYes, that\u2019s what I want in my life.\u201d<\/p>\nKatie: I\u2019m positive again.<\/p>\n
Carol: And going even further into the woo woo though is a book called The Answer<\/em> and it\u2019s been a while since I\u2019ve read it. It has to do with The Secret<\/em>. Do you remember The Secret<\/em>?<\/p>\nKatie: I don\u2019t know if I saw the movie but the concept of The Secret<\/em>, well I\u2019ve got my own theory for the concept to have The Secret<\/em> but go ahead.<\/p>\nCarol: No what is your concept for The Secret<\/em>?<\/p>\nKatie: Well it has to do with brain psychology and we don\u2019t get what we want we get what we focus on and so the secret is really all about focusing on, I think they say, the ABC\u2019s or if you believe it you will realize it and really to me it\u2019s not so much, I\u2019m not saying beliefs are valid, it\u2019s not saying don\u2019t believe it, it\u2019s saying focus on something because that\u2019s what you\u2019ll get because you are focusing on it.<\/p>\n
So the answer just takes it \u2013 it says, \u201cGrow any business. Achieve financial freedom and live an extraordinary life.\u201d It\u2019s by John Assaraf and Murray Smith and I just loved it because it is a little bit more on that woo woo side of business but it\u2019s a business book that allows you to be a little bit less left brained.<\/p>\n
Katie: More right brained.<\/p>\n
Carol: A little bit more creative, a little bit more \u2013 I don\u2019t know, it\u2019s been a while since I\u2019ve read it.<\/p>\n
Katie: More conceptual than hard core. Okay, I like that. So keeping those sorts of books, listen to the sort of conversations that you and I have just pulling a book out and saying, \u201cWhat did you get from it?\u201d This is why people have book clubs.<\/p>\n
Actually we could morph this tip into have a book club at work. That\u2019s a great idea. Or just have a book club that you participate in sometimes the people at work aren\u2019t going to love the things that you love but a mastermind group or some other group would love the same kind of books.<\/p>\n
Katie: We had a mastermind group that was into the Gitomer\u2019s list of how to build relationships and we went through his list. That was fun. Were you in the mastermind group when we did that?<\/p>\n
Carol: I was not there.<\/p>\n
Katie: It was Gitomer\u2019s. He has The Little Black Book<\/em> of\u2026, The Little Red Book<\/em> of\u2026, and this happened to be How to Make Connections and so we talked about it and used one another for support. But it was girl friends but it wasn\u2019t girlfriends that I work with. It was working girlfriends. Not working girls.<\/p>\nCarol: So keep leadership and team building books on your shelf, including inspiring books on CD. Use good ones as references when you need ideas.<\/p>\n
Katie: All right, lifelong learning.<\/p>\n
Okay, next tip.<\/p>\n
Carol: Encourage your employees to check out any of your books<\/em>.<\/p>\nKatie: So affiliated with that same tip, associated with the same tip, encouraging them to check out any of your books. Make a little checkout list. I like that you are the little library. And you are encouraging your employees to come on over because you are the person that sets the environment for how others \u2013 if you are the leader you are the influence.<\/p>\n
Carol: Right and are they lifelong learners? The other thing I do for my staff is when I see webinars come across my desk and different seminars and things that are in town, I will send that out to my entire staff and say, \u201cWho wants to participate because I think it will be good for all of us?\u201d<\/p>\n
Then we usually do one of these in our office but it\u2019s a little bit beyond the books but still it\u2019s encouraging other people around you to be that lifelong learner.<\/p>\n
Katie: I would like to think that companies do \u2013 people in companies \u2013 big or small \u2013 but I\u2019ve seen several companies that not necessarily larger ones where they are pretty good at sending people to training, but it will be the technical training or it will be in the health care industry or it will be in the nonprofit, but it\u2019s not about leadership or it\u2019s not about communication or it\u2019s not about relationships, and those are \u2013 that\u2019s the glue that holds all of the above together.<\/p>\n
Carol: Well and I think it\u2019s really important if you have folks that work together, I think it\u2019s very important to do some kind of styles coaching, team building styles and the reason for that is it just \u2013 everybody gets to relax around each other because they learn that other person isn\u2019t behaving the way they are believing just to irritate me. They are doing it because that\u2019s their personality and when you can \u2013 where everybody can learn that about each other it\u2019s very powerful for the team.<\/p>\n
Katie: It gives you grace for how to understand and in some cases tolerate. When you\u2019ve got people you don\u2019t think you can deal with, I say well just try to understand what their intent is, where they are coming from and what can you tolerate? Just go for a level of tolerance. Often when you know what their style is, there\u2019s always those people that are rub us the wrong way.<\/p>\n
Carol: Sure and they probably rub you the wrong way because of a brother you had \u2013<\/p>\n
Katie: Oh God my brother was such a bully. He probably listens to this too.<\/p>\n
Well, with the styles and with the team building, I had a client who, on their leadership team \u2013 there was one guy that had a reputation for being difficult to get along with. He\u2019s an engineer. And when we were doing a leadership \u2013 we were doing some strategic planning but I do my strategic planning with a lot of interdependence. It\u2019s about you guys as a group. You have to be the ones that have to rely on each other to make it happen.<\/p>\n
So we did some understanding about what\u2019s important to you, where did you come from, a little bit of your background. I think I actually pulled it from some ideas from the seven dysfunctions \u2013 sorry, it\u2019s 5, The 5 Dysfunctions of a Team<\/em> by Patrick Lencioni and in there he recommends that you find out what someone\u2019s story and their background is and this guy actually, one of his first job had been in a prison so he had learned early on that you can\u2019t take things for what they are \u2013 what they appear to be. People generally have differing intents and they have conflicting ways of \u2013 they manipulate you, because of the environment he was in.<\/p>\nSo he seemed to be a rather sarcastic guy and everybody heard this about him and they were like, \u201cOh my God, I didn\u2019t know that about you. I get you now.\u201d They suddenly got this guy and why part of that had drifted into his \u2013 the early way that he developed his leadership.<\/p>\n
Carol: Interesting so keep these books around. Read them with each other, read them with your mastermind.<\/p>\n
And the next tip we\u2019re going to go over is Number 32: Keep a book of trivia in your office, it makes you look interesting. <\/em><\/p>\nKatie: I just think we tossed this in because it was interesting.<\/p>\n
Carol: Because it is fun.<\/p>\n
Katie: How many U.S. soldiers were killed in the movie Black Hawk Down?<\/p>\n
Carol: I don\u2019t believe I saw it. I tend not to see horror movies or heavy movies.<\/p>\n
Katie: Well this \u2013 it just occurred to me that having some trivia along the lines of sports or movies or war, could help you connect to men better in the office. The answer is 18.<\/p>\n
A tetrahedron is composed of how many triangles?<\/p>\n
Carol: Three.<\/p>\n
Katie: Wrong, four. I\u2019m the engineer. I took so much math.<\/p>\n
Carol: Did you know the answer to that?<\/p>\n
Katie: No.<\/p>\n
Carol: Well I was just going by the T in the \u201ctetra\u201d so I thought it was three.<\/p>\n
Katie: Okay so you might get this one. Colors that are opposite each other on the color wheel are referred to as what? You know how the color wheel works?<\/p>\n
Carol: No I know and you can actually look at green and close your eyes and you\u2019ll see red.<\/p>\n
Katie: Because it is opposite, which another word for opposite is, complimentary colors. So see how fun it is?<\/p>\n
Carol: Red and green and bue and yellow?<\/p>\n
Katie: I don\u2019t know. Now you are testing me. Which ones are opposite? Like yellow and purple? We\u2019ll find out more specifically on the website.<\/p>\n
Carol: Okay give us more trivia.<\/p>\n
Katie: Okay in Norse Mythology, who are the female attendants of Odin?<\/p>\n
Carol: Sirens.<\/p>\n
Katie: No but there was a movie called this \u2013 the Valkyrie.\u00a0 With Tom Cruise.<\/p>\n
What is the common name for the collegiate church of St. Peter in London?<\/p>\n
The geography one. What is the more common name for the collegiate church of St. Peter in London?<\/p>\n
Carol: St. Peter\u2019s Basilica?<\/p>\n
Katie: No. St. Paul\u2019s Cathedral.<\/p>\n
And then there\u2019s a whole category of fun trivia. You see it just kind of lightens it up. We\u2019ve just spent this last podcast, most of this podcast talking about things that are published, things that are trivial, and they all have to do with building our brains. Only good can come from that. It will keep us from getting early onset alcohol induced dementia.<\/p>\n
Carol: That\u2019s right. Actually alcohol keeps you from getting dementia.<\/p>\n
Katie: Some.<\/p>\n
Carol: Did you read that?<\/p>\n
Katie: Is it only red wine?<\/p>\n
Carol: Yeah it\u2019s red wine.<\/p>\n
Katie: Yeah and I think there\u2019s probably a law of diminishing returns on that, like more is not better.<\/p>\n
Carol: Darn. Okay, well I\u2019ll have to live with that.<\/p>\n
So what I thought in this is not just keep a book of trivia in your office but take that old trivia box that you have take it to work because you are not using it and then people can pick up cards and ask you questions.<\/p>\n
Katie: That\u2019s fun. Put one on the bulletin board.<\/p>\n
Carol: Or maybe if somebody\u2019s going to come in and ask you something, they have to pull a trivia card first and answer it.<\/p>\n
Katie: You must answer the questions three before you come in the room. What\u2019s your favorite color?<\/p>\n
So these three great tips, we hope you are enjoying our podcast.<\/p>\n
Carol: We sure enjoy doing it.<\/p>\n
Katie: We love doing it. You keeping me on my toes and coming up with questions and ideas and things that we can do as women and anecdotes of what happens to you in your little world because it\u2019s really different than what happens to me in my little world. Those followers of ours, boy do they have different worlds. I love hearing that.<\/p>\n
Carol: We really would. We would love if you all would go to our podcast and post comments and like it and share it.<\/p>\n
We just looked and we had some record number of 612 people listening to our podcast.<\/p>\n
Katie: So you are not alone. You think you are the only one listening but somewhere out in the Antarctic are other people listening.<\/p>\n
Carol: Keep listening.<\/p>\n
(Music plays)<\/p>\n
That\u2019s it for this episode of the Skirt Strategies podcast. Thank you for joining us and please be sure to leave a question or comment at Skirtstrategies.com. Remember that success comes when you lead using your natural female strengths.<\/p>\n
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